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Hello, this is Grand Rapids, Michigan.

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Yes.

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My brother tells me that he saw a UFO last week, and I'd like to report, I'd like to

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tell you what he said.

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He's a little hesitant to talk to anybody.

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Okay, we'd like to hear about it.

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All right, sir.

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Four lights, white.

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This was last week.

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He said they looked like four pigeons carrying flashlights.

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Flashlights of light that was broken.

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And I asked him if he was, he drank and I asked him if he said he was stone sober.

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Saw in split seconds over pine trees.

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Now that would be in the west to the, to the northwest.

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I'm not sure quite where he was standing or where he parked the car when she got out.

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And then Jean continues to refuse to talk about it when pressed.

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Then relates, then relaxes and talks about it again.

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In other words, I'm afraid that he's a little bit afraid that he might end up in a mental institution.

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And that was all he saw, just those lights.

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That's all I can report.

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That's all, I wrote down what he said.

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He said it kind of curved a little bit when it disappeared.

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Okay.

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I'd like to have you talk to him more.

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We'd like very much to.

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All right.

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Can you get somebody out here?

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Is there somebody here in Grand Rapids, Michigan?

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Well, we give it a try if we can't, while we can interviewing him over the phone.

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All right.

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What was man's name?

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Okay, do you have any idea on the date on that?

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Well, no.

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I, it was just, just last week during the, during the working hours.

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It, during the day, he worked, he comes home from work sometime in the early morning hours.

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I see.

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So it would be from Monday through Friday.

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Now, he didn't say what's date.

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Okay.

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Does he work at a swing shift or something?

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Yes.

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Yeah.

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He worked at, from about four o'clock till midnight and after.

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Okay.

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And we better call him sometime in the afternoon and then.

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Yes.

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Yes.

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If you call while I'm here, he's in bed right now.

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Uh-huh.

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And he will be up probably by 11.30, 12 o'clock.

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If you call back then.

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Okay.

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What was your name again, sir?

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My name is.

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You get her number?

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Uh, I got it from the FAA at the, again, at the airport.

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Okay.

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Would that be the tower?

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Uh, no.

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No.

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I, I got it from a man in the, in the FAA room.

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I first went downtown to our, uh, office downtown.

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Oh, I see.

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Okay.

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I had to go off to the airport.

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All right, sirs.

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Thank you very much.

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Yes, sir.

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Bye.

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I saw something strange in the sky a few days back.

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Oh, yeah.

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My brother reported that.

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Yes.

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Uh, I only saw for a couple of seconds and I couldn't, I don't think it was the UFO really.

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I don't know what it was, but I don't, uh, because it was right at a house top level.

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I see.

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Could we get a description of it?

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Well, the only thing I could say was just that it looked like, uh, about six lights.

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Uh-huh.

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It kind of, uh, it reminded me of a, of a photographer that, that you have them bars with the lights on it.

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Yes.

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Absolutely cameras.

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That's what it looked like, a bar of lights just going through.

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Okay, now they're in a straight line.

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Yeah, they're in a straight line.

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And they maintain that all the way.

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I only saw them for just a flash.

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I see.

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Okay.

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So I, I don't know if it was my imagination or, you know, I don't, I don't need imagination,

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but just a, I don't know what you'd call it.

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Were they quite large, these lights?

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No, not really.

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Okay, what time did you spot those?

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I must have been somewhere between 1-1-30.

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That's in the morning?

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Yeah, well, yeah, right after midnight.

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Okay.

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Just after midnight.

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Okay.

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I, I don't know what it was.

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Maybe just a flock of birds and a lighter or something.

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I don't know.

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Okay, what date was that, do you remember?

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No, I couldn't remember the date because I'd forgotten about it for a week because I,

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you know, I just, it was, it was too low to be anything.

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You feel as they were about tree top level?

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Yeah.

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Yeah, I would say that or a little lower even.

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So I tried to figure that it couldn't be.

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Did you detect any sound?

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No, absolutely.

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It was amazing.

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There was no sound.

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Actually, I don't know if pigeons fly at night or some type of, maybe just a bunch of pigeons,

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trees were light or something.

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But were those lights quite bright?

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No, not really.

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They had no beam, you know.

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No, hardly, just reflected, just like you saw a light.

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Right.

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Without any fluorescent around them or anything.

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That's why the fog is just something true to a flash of light.

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I told my brothers, it don't report that.

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Well, it could be very important.

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Was that it this month?

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Did that occur this month?

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Yeah, yeah, it was about two weeks ago.

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About two weeks ago, okay.

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Yeah, so it wasn't.

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Like I said, I couldn't, I don't know what I saw.

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Do you feel that they were close to you or do you have any estimate of distance?

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Yeah, I thought they were fairly close.

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Just, you know, like I said, about three top heights.

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I kept looking, I expected it to come out around the tree, you know, and I could see it again, you know.

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Yes.

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But I never, I never seen that.

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I see, okay.

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Just a split second, so.

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I had no idea what it was.

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I still think it was, it was just a flash of light or birds or something.

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Uh-huh.

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Might be, anyway.

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Then I looked at the Olympics and made a search line, you know, the advertising, big search

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lights that go around.

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Right.

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And I looked for that, I didn't see no search lines.

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I don't know what it was.

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Okay.

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All right, sir, well, we sure appreciate your talking to us.

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Okay.

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Thank you.

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Bye.

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Bye-bye.

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Bye-bye.